Dude Thank you very much. I’m a pagan and one thing I tire of from the pagan “community” is their constant whining about christians. The same applies to christians who want to control pagans. Or ubuntucians that want to control everyone. I’ve been to a lot of churches and I’ve yet to see as much attempts at controlling everyone…EVERYONE that does not think a particular way as since I’ve had the great misfortune of experience the Ubuntu elites.

You said it all and in a mouthful. Thanks again.

Note: Somehow despite these ridiculous controls that they try to impose on us, the software still comes out mostly pretty good. Imagine how much better it would be if it were just the software maam…and none of the whining?

I am a Christian. I go to church every week, don’t cuss, avoid porn, etc. I don’t see any problem in what he writes insofar because, quite frankly, I am not his parent/boss/significant other. If I don’t like what he writes, I move on. Simple as that. Who appointed you to be the moral compass of the community? He wrote something that was actually right on the money. You did what many people in my faith do wrong, you decided that what he writes is your business. You cannot have free expression without hearing something you might not like. Thats the world that we live in man. Simple as that. I live my life my way, you live your life your way, and he will live his life his way. In the end, its not up to you, me, or anyone else to tell him what he can or cannot do. It is as simple as that.

To be honest, if you don’t like what he writes then you should move on. Fork Ubuntu and make your own community based around the “no cussing” no unapproved speech mindset and soon you will realize that your community will be very small.

I don’t want to start a flame war or anything like that. I just think that your attempt to censor him is misguided and wrong. You are the one being disruptive to the community. Yes, some people do find cursing offensive. I find it offensive to me. However, I only control what I SAY and no one else. Its ridiclous and quite honestly arrogant to expect that everyone adheres to your morals. What if mine were to say nothing negative about Ubuntu? Or Linux? What if I tried to impose that on you? How would you feel then? The reason the CoC works is because, it doesn’t set a certain ruleset on people other than “play nice”. Now, if your concept of play only includes sliding down the slide does that mean that the rest of the playground (Swingsets, Jungle-gyms, etc) is torn up because you don’t like swinging on the swings? It would be ridiculous to expect someone to only slide down the slide because that is what you find as acceptable.

What you really want is everyone to be just like you. Well, if everyone was like you then the whole concept of community flies out the window. After all, its the mix of different people that makes Ubuntu what it is. Its a creative group of people, from different walks of life, collaborating to make one heck of an operating system.

Police yourself. Be an example to others. Play nice. Don’t expect everyone to be you.

I didn’t know that definition. Keeping it in mind, posts about personal life are not out of place and I apologize for my hasty comment. I like Planet Ubuntu a lot, I skip those posts I don’t want to read, but I just felt continous posts about metal music and personal life stories were out of place. If they are included by definition, fine with me

You have motivated me to attend the Community Council meeting for no other purpose to watch the debate between you and Stephan Hermann. While yes I do get annoyed by the ancillary discussions of things that are only related to Ubuntu in the fact that the poster is both an Ubuntu member and involved in the other topic I skip over those posts that I don’t care about.

I read the Planet Ubuntu to know what the people behind the OS that I use day in and day out are up to. From on topic revelations about interesting issues being found in the OS, to new software (and my favorite new software package, terminator), to the other topics that people are working on. This is also the reason why I subscribed to the Gentoo Universe. I was not receiving the full picture of my what my favored developers were working on and how I might give incentives them.

I am all for talking about masturbation, the genocide, WTFing each other etc. around a beer here in Montreal, city of many cultural influences and origins. Just NOT on Planet.

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The work and lives of Ubuntu developers / contributors includes the rock metal, dating, and bands. It is perfectly ontopic for planet ubuntu. If you don’t like it, why not create your own “planet ubuntu fork” and only read that?

Here is the software (written by jdub) to do it:
http://www.planetplanet.org/

Well this is exactly the issue isn’t it? Where you come from using certain words (cursing) is disrespectful. Where I come from, friends curse at each other. Not only is it not a sign of disrespect, but rather just the opposite. We’re free individuals and you are right in our crowd enough that we are comfortable talking to you like we do to anyone else. If we aren’t “cursin” you, then it means you’re not a part of us.

Now to this issue of masturbation or genocide. This again is a matter of your opinion. If you feel speaking about masturbation is wrong, then don’t do it. I feel that suppression has increased senseless feelings of guilt. So I take offense that the subject of sexuality of any sort is taboo. It’s what leads to folks like me (not straight, monogamous), to have to listen to comments from certain in the Ubuntu community that we are not entitled to talk about our romantic partners because we’re not “proper”.

I’m always amazed at folks that want others to come off of the planets, or forums, or chat rooms, or any number of places because they find what they post offensive. I find lots of things offensive, and I just skim over the comments and look for the things I am interested in. I think, that others might grow to such an extent that they can do the same thing.